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Windows 10 Thoughts

Discussion in 'Computers, Smartphones & Tablets' started by Gorge, Aug 11, 2015.

  1. Gorge

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    Now that Windows 10 has been out for most about a week now what does everyone think of it so far? I get there's already a thread about W10, but that's more about the installation process.

    Personally I like it a lot, albeit I haven't dived too much into some of the power features such as multiple desktops, and nor have I downloaded any apps from the Microsoft store, or activated Cortana or used the pictures or music programs. But its responsive, and I actually like the new start menu more than the old one from W7. Somehow information feels easier to find and read.

    For the new web browser, Edge, I never thought I'd say this about an MS product but I think I like it. I really dig the news feature that shows up with every new tab I open. I've been trying it out off and on (my main is FF) since I upgraded and I don't have any issues. Its has an even more minimal, clean, modern feel than Chrome or Firefox, and since I don't really use extensions with browsers I don't really feel like i'm missing anything with its barebones features. Obviously this will change over time but at the moment I don't feel like I need them aside from maybe an ad-block. I just don't understand why it has the same old IE logo.

    All that said there's been a lot of confusion on my end about all these privacy settings. Its hard to sift through the internet and find out whats regular internet paranoia and whats a legitimate concern. Such as the tracking your keystrokes option. It says Microsoft tracks what you search and type and uses it to improve search results and ad's. Everyone is flipping out that MS is doing it, yet its the same stuff Google and Apple do and no one complains. But then there's Wi-Fi Sense which its just a bonkers idea I can't believe got approved. I get what they're trying to do with it but they way it works just does not sound like a good idea. So at the moment I feel like I don't have my security and privacy settings as fine-tuned as they could be.
     
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    Overall I like it. It seems to be working better than what 7 did for me. I don't really have many things to complain about, other than the silly settings like Gorge mentioned. I was a bit annoyed about moving windows between monitors as win10 kind of blocks it and you have to move your mouse to the other monitor to drag it over. I don't know if there are settings for that. Might be.

    I didn't touch edge. Probably won't at all. Cortana I tried, but she didn't like my mic for some reason which resulted in her barely hearing me. So that's off now. So yeah. Overall I'm pretty happy with it so far.
     
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    Love it, great OS.
     
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    Keeps breaking my PC. I'm out on it until some bugs are worked out, or I'll stick to 8.1.
     
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    Honestly I haven't really used any of the new features. I'm not totally comfortable with Microsoft listening to everything I say, so Cortana is off. I haven't used Edge (though I'm getting annoyed with Chrome that I just might). I'm still not feeling the new start menu but I've gotten to where I don't use it much anyway.

    My work laptop has Windows 7 on it and I use it 99% of the time, so I think I get into the habit of using those features instead of the Windows 10 features. At this point it seems to have all of those features so I'm mostly ambivalent. I'll probably form a stronger opinion when school starts and I use my personal laptop more.
     
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    Finally got a new hard drive so I upgraded. Free space was the issue as I expected. Having 3TB extra after having basically no space for a couple of years is nice!

    I'm a bit like Kat - everything looks nice and functions well, but aside from the new start menu (that I do like a lot) for what I've used so far everything has been very similar. Upgrading from 7 and never used 8 more than a few brief moments so I'm not sure what is an upgrade from 7 or a feature that 8 had, but stuff like improved snapping, the action centre (basically the same as the OS X one), multiple desktops (finally!) and ultimately DX12 support is probably what I would identify as the most useful new features for me.
     
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    I saw something about a month ago that showed Edge uses an insane amount of RAM. Its part of the reason I've since gone back to Fire Fox although lately thats been giving me some trouble but I think that has more to do with sites running Flash. While I get why FF isn't supporting flash anymore, there's just way too many websites out there for me to disable it.
     
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    I think you can use adblock to disable flash stuff. And if not, there's sure to be an add-on to do it.

    After all the people digging through win10 and its spying stuff, I'm still overall on the positive side. The thing is functional and all, but the plantant spying on you is crappy. I did go and disable and remove a bunch of stuff "experts" said tracked stuff and well... At least it gives me peace of mind?

    Another amusing thing I read. Apparently it's in the win10 tos that they can remove games that they think are pirated from your computer without notice. So yes, if you pirated something its not really anything to whine about if it gets removed, but an interesting thing Microsoft gave itself power for.
     
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    I have windows 10 on one of my work laptops. It's ok. But my other work laptop and two work desktops run win 7 and I'm going to eventually downgrade 10 to 7 on the other laptop.

    My home PC is running 8.1 and breaks every single time I attempt to, or have, installed win10. I'm not a fan thus far, and I'm a tad frustrated by it.
     
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    Maybe dl the whole thing and do a clean install? That is if you really care to upgrade.
     
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    At this point? Don't think I do.
     
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    That's the TOS for the Windows and Xbox stores. There's no ability for them to remove pirated software from other sources.
     
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    I was trying to say too many sites use Flash for me to disable it. Such as Comcast Xfinity. If I want to watch a show through that I have to keep Flash enabled otherwise it doesn't work, and from my experience Youtubes HTML5 player doesn't work very well compared to their standard flash player. Not enough websites are off Flash to make disabling flash worth it.
     
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    Html5 has worked great for me for YouTube. It does lack some of the features, bug otherwise its fine.
     
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    I have a Flash blocker because 99% of the Flash usage out there is totally unnecessary, but there are a few sites for me too that I just have to have it for. Apparently Chrome has completely stopped supporting Java, which is cool...

    Has anybody figured out a way to set keyboard shortcuts for applications yet? You used to be able to right click files in the start menu or task bar and get to the properties and set it there, but there's no option to view properties in either of those places now. Even if I can find it in Windows explorer, there still doesn't seem to be an option to set a keyboard shortcut in the properties. I don't like to click and it's making me really mad! Some of us still have a keyboard and like it, goddammit. >=|
     
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    Not sure how I missed this, but yeah, you can set shortcuts (I set the shortcuts on the "All Apps" > "Open File Location" shortcut that pops up, which then forwards to the actual target).

    KeyboardShortcutsWin10.png
     
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    Weird... that works for some things but not everything. Try it on the calculator, for instance. There's no "open file location" option on it.
     
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    Yeah a few of the newer Microsoft apps don't work, but it's still effective for most things. Not perfect, I know, but better than nothing!
     
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    Not really because it doesn't work on the only apps I had shortcuts for. >_<
     
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    Just upgraded my laptop to Windows 10. That "start menu" is not a start menu... pretty much the same shit as Windows 8. Luckily the Start Menu that came with Win 8.1 was carried over.

    The whole thing seems... slow. Hopefully that's only because there may have been updates installing. Can't find update settings to keep them from automatically updating, only a setting to keep it from automatically restarting.

    I'm glad it kept everything that I had on Win 8 instead of just sticking it all in a separate folder like previous versions.
     
  21. Kat

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    There is no setting to prevent automatic updates. You are stuck with them unless you disable the update service completely. I had issues with it being super slow too, and it was due to some services that I really didn't need. Go through your task manager and look for what's hogging all your resources and disable it. My computer was unusable until I did.
     
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    If you right-click the Windows icon it gives you a bunch of useful things that you don't have to try to search through the otherwise horrid maze of Win10 settings.
     
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    Should point out that this option does exist (mercifully) on the Pro version, which I have thanks to upgrading my student bought Windows 7 Pro.
     
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    Is that right? I wonder if I could secure a version of Pro somehow. I don't suppose it also lets you put a keyboard shortcut on the calculator?
     
  25. Fool's Requiem

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    I just disabled the Windows Update service so it doesn't automatically update.
     
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    Yep, me too. I'd like to have the option of updating it, though.
     
  27. Gorge

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    Odd, I never had any issues with it being slow or things running in the background taking up resources so I've never disabled the auto updates. Maybe its just not as noticeable on a more powerful desktop, i'll have to double check when I get home tomorrow.
     
  28. Fool's Requiem

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    It's not a PC/Laptop performance issue, the issue is the fact that it downloads whenever an update is available, and it impacts network performance.
     
  29. Gorge

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    Still, I haven't noticed any issues
     
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    neither has my wife