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Windows 7 Tablets

Discussion in 'Computers, Smartphones & Tablets' started by Mike^2, Aug 27, 2011.

  1. Mike^2

    Mike^2 A New Dimension of Mike! Moderator Premium Member

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    So, I think I need some help figuring this out. I bought an Acer W500 Tab for the purposes of teaching with it and writing on the screen. I have since discovered that, while it doesn't appear to be fully specified anywhere, this machine is incompatible with pen input and is designed only for finger input or similar stylus that doesn't count as a pen. So, I'm going through the trouble of trying to return this item I sold it to somebody. Meanwhile Now, I can't seem to find a decent machine to do what I want it to do.

    Here's what I'm looking for:
    1. Windows 7, not the cheapest version possible.
    2. Pen or touch screen input. That is, I can put my hand on the screen and write with a pen with only the pen input coming up. Pressure sensitive would be nice too.
    3. A reasonable number of USB ports, maybe 3 or 4.
    4. Ideally, I would like it to have VGA out or something that can be converted to VGA (meaning not HDMI) with a simple cable and not an active device. I need VGA because the school projectors use this interface.
    5. Laptop style with a full size keyboard is more what I'm looking for, though I'm willing to go stronger than this.
    6. The vertical resolution should be at least 768 pixels so I can connect to the projector with a 1024x768 resolution. It would be even better if the monitor was not widescreen so that 1024x768 is its native resolution.
    7. Cost is not an issue unless it's very pricey. I'd say I probably don't want to pay more than maybe $750.
     
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    I am not an expert on tablets, never even bought one for myself, but after some digging around at all the decent online vendors I can think of, I've come to the following conclusions. Building VGA into tablets is not popular or common. Most seem to have only one USB port, although I did come across a couple with two. Most things stylus/pen-compatible and within the price range you're talking about seem to be Android-based, Then, there's the simple fact that I straight-up cannot tell if certain units are pen/stylus-compatible or not because they do no explicitly say. Getting screens all disgusting with your grubby fingers seems to be the trend these days *eye roll*

    Everything Acer seems to be designed the same way, so I guess I would avoid them in this case. The reviews on the HP Windows 7 tablets seem to be mediocre. I guess from a specifications standpoint, I'd have to go with the only thing that looked to fit the bill, the Fujitsu Stylistic line. They are uuber expensive beause of their SSD drives, out of your desired price range by $200 - $300. If I knew it were pen/stylus-compatible, I might recommend the MSI unit (again, for the specs) $100 over, again, because of SSD. Anyway, take a look at your own dismay:
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    Hmm, the MSI appears to not have a pen input ability, just based on what I had seen looking around some myself. The Fujitsu computer looks pretty good but only has 1 USB port and is quite expensive. The similar items thing revealed this computer that is probably more along the design I'd be looking for. The ipad looking design is cool and all, but I would need the USB ports to have a keyboard/mouse plus the vga output. Perhaps that design has more like it? I know I used a computer similar to that one in the past that would be perfect.

    Hmm, if this is the computer for the link I just gave, that's pretty much what I'm looking for! It even has VGA out! How's it look? Only other thought is that the one review for this product looks a whole lot like he got a bad one. I don't know haha, but here is a cheaper model that has a lot of good reviews. I did confirm by looking on another website that his does have distinguishable pen input, so that solves that problem. My only thought is something that I forgot to add to my original post. This thing is not capable of running 1024x768 resolution that I know looks good on the projector. I'll have to play with the 800x600 resolution with the machine I've been running and see if that will work ok.

    Yeah, if anybody finds something along this line that has enough pixels on the screen to run 1024x768 (and also has a full size keyboard), I will be even more interested in that. Thanks Sombra for what you gave me so far!
     
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    Okay, I wasn't looking at tablet PC's last night since you didn't mention wanting a keyboard, but now that you have, that definitely makes things a little more flexible. The downside to the one that has the VGA-out is that it does initially come imaged with Win7 Starter, and I know you sort of said you wanted to avoid that. Hence, you'd have to upgrade. Would keeping a tablet plugged in and attached to a USB hub completely defeat the purpose for you? I suppose if you were going to do that, you'd just get a laptop at that point, huh? Hahaha!
     
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    Yeah, I guess I failed to mention that that's why I needed the extra USB slots. I don't need a keyboard, but since I do intend to type things on it, it would be preferable. I guess I failed to also say that I want to of course make the screen sit flat so I can write on it easily enough. Having a laptop style is more what I want than the super recent ipad type machines, just so that I can teach with it. Also, the second link I gave with all the reviews was just a simpler model than the one I was interested. Windows 7 starter doesn't support multi-touch and the screen comes with that power, weird.

    I was specifically looking at this computer, but the downsides are that the resolution is 600 tall max and the keyboard is small. (Edit: For that matter, 1024x600 is a bizarre resolution... 128:75? About 1.7:1.)

    I updated my desired preferences. Thanks for what you've done so far, and I look forward to whatever else you find! If you find a model that can't be bought on major websites as easily because it's been discontinued or something, I can always hunt amazon or ebay for it.
     
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    I've thought about it a little bit more, and I think perhaps a slightly older model with those qualifications but a square screen would be better. It seems everything is widescreen nowadays except for the projector!

    Also, I can't return the other one I bought... Any ideas on how to unload this without having to spend a ton of money in seller fees selling it online? (and getting most/all of my money back?)
     
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    I'm afraid I have nothing more to offer in terms of advice at this point. I am not very crafty when it comes to those sorts of issues. My knowledge of tablet PC's has reached its limit. I would not be able to make any more truly informed decisions.
     
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    Well I appreciate it! Does anybody know a good place to research discontinued technology from 2 or 3 years ago?
     
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    I'm curious about that too.
     
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    Update: I managed to sell the machine with some crazy luck on craigslist right after I listed it on ebay because I got tired of fake e-mails from paypal and wanting me to ship the laptop to nigeria. Now, I'm getting to the point where I need to start researching and getting a new machine again.
     
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    Excellent. Perhaps we can do that in tandem. I am considering getting a tablet and it does not necessarily need to be Windows-based. I feel weird about bumping such an old thread, but clearly, that isn't a problem. :tease:
     
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    What do you think? Potential Match

    I have not looked at prices yet, but I'm guessing it's in the $700-$800 range based on some things I found. Google shopping actually helped me find this after I found the phrase "convertible tablet" to mean precisely what I wanted as a touch screen laptop.
     
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    Yes, I believe I found that one initially on Newegg, but I didn't bring it up as I was not sure how far you were willing to go to find an item that Newegg deactivated. :shrug:
    Aside from that and the integrated video, that's probably the best match you're going to find.
     
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    Yeah, it looks pretty good! My e-bay searching yielded something that I think is that one, so I asked the seller a bunch of questions. I might just have it now!

    Ah, nice to see potential closure and to finally get rid of that horrible school machine I've been using for 6 months. After teaching for 2-3 classes with it, I get the "your computer is low on memory" message. Probably due to the fact that everything wants to update, and I can't do it since it's administrator locked. It also takes 10 minutes to shut down, so I almost always just power it off the wrong way. :p